Sean Sean
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| 09-10-2008 12:36 PM |
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Hi,
I have a form with 10 questions and one hidden textbox
I have enabled SQL as a default value for the hidden textbox, the value (from the querystring) is either 1 or 0 when the form loads. What I want is to show only the first 5 questions when the textbox value =0. And the second 5 questions when the textbox=1.
The question events only fire after a postback. How can I cause it to get/read the value from the hidden textbox and show either the first 5 or the second 5 questions?
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Jim Evans
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| 09-16-2008 07:53 AM |
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Textboxes cannot be used to drive question events, at this time. Jim |
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Sean Sean
 going with the flow Posts:48

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| 09-16-2008 08:51 AM |
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thanks for answering Jim.
It's not so much an issue about that textbox. To explain: There is this catalogue on the site with various products in different categories. When the customer clicks an item they are interested in they will be sent to the page with the dynamic form. Depending on the category item they have picked, they will see some questions in the form, whilst other questions remain hidden.
Example: When their choice is to buy something from the clothing category, they need to answer the size and colour, so these questions in the form need to show.
So the when the customer clicks an item in the catalogue, the ItemID and the CategoryID will be passed on to the url of the Dynamic Form page.
How can I make the form show/hide questions depending on these 2 values from the querystring?
I hope the question is clear
Thanks again
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Chad Nash
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| 09-16-2008 12:54 PM |
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Sean, Hi. Ill have to review if the question events can be triggered based on a hidden field as well. I know it would have to be a hidden field type and not a textbox that was selected as 'hide by role' etc... If it CAN then you should be ok. If you are using SQL within the SQL default AND a querystring variable you will have to use one of the reserved querystring / short field names which are DSParam1, DSParam2, and DSParam3. For more details on these I would search the forums directly for DSParam1 etc... If you still cannot get a working solution please setup a demo that illustrates what you are wanting on Beta Springs (login as username host with a password of dnnhost) and we will review it to determine how it can be done and if it can't what we might want to do as a work around or future enhancement etc... -Chad |
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Sean Sean
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| 09-16-2008 02:38 PM |
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Hi Chad,
I've set up a Demo on beta springs
http://www.betasprings.com/Valuefro...fault.aspx
Obviously this demo doesn't work because it needs the table with Catalogue items in the database. I got the DSParam1 working on my local DNN site though.
Where I get stuck is at the Question Events setup. The question that will initiate the event of hiding or showing following questions basically does not exist. The trigger should already happen at Page Load where it can read the value ('answer') from the querystring ('DSParam2')
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Chad Nash
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| 09-16-2008 03:10 PM |
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Sean, Hi. I am actually surprised this has not come up before as this would be heavily used in many implementations (that I can think of). Basically though during design the 'reason' users would use a question event would never involve a 'hidden' field type being a postback field. Anyway... I have updated the BetaSprings.com site to allow for hidden fields to be postback fields. So...I also changed the CatID variable to be a hidden field. Can you let me know (now that you can create a question event on this being the postback question) if this fields you up? If so this feature should be in the 2.7.1 incremental build that we will release soon. If not we will have to review testing it more to determine what will need to be added/changed within the code to allow this. -Chad |
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Sean Sean
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| 09-17-2008 12:20 AM |
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Hi Chad,
Getting there ... The hidden field CatId shows, but it needs the 'initiation response' to be activated too to make it work.
Looking forward to the 2.7.1 release 
thanks for your work |
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Chad Nash
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| 09-30-2008 02:10 PM |
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Ok, we are awaiting some more testing but this has been implemented now (at least as far as the question event is concerned with setting it up in the manage questions and settings area). So, please test it again on Beta Springs and let me know. We have a few other minor updates and will include this in the next incremental patch. -Chad |
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Jim Evans
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| 09-30-2008 03:09 PM |
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Chad,
Any idea yet, when the 2.7.1 patch will be available?
Jim |
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Sean Sean
 going with the flow Posts:48

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| 09-30-2008 03:41 PM |
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Hi Chad,
Here's what I did:
- Hidden textbox (CatId) with value 1
- Question Event1 : when CatId=1 then hide last question
Now this only works when there is a postback. So for example I've set up a second Question event:
- Question Event2: pick a color and some other question will be hidden.
The moment this second question gets triggered by choosing a radiobutton-color ALSO the first question event gets triggered.
Would it be possible to have this first event -with the hidden textbox -start to fire when the page loads? In the websites I'm building the value of this hidden textbox comes from the querystring. So it would be great when this first question event fires the very moment the form opens/page loads.
Thanks
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Chad Nash
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| 10-20-2008 08:36 AM |
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Hi guys, Ok. I updated the installation file now on 2.7.4. We were really holding off on this small list of enhancements/patches until we were able to confirm that question events could fire based on hidden fields and initially on hidden fields. You should be able to test this now on Beta Springs, our internal tests worked for the main 'Unhide field' however we have not tested it for some of the other question events. We should have this released to everyone by the end of the week with a full announcement. -Chad |
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schuhtl
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| 10-20-2008 12:52 PM |
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Chad,
Just to clarify...with this new feature can I hide/display questions based on a querystring parameter (when the page loads)?
Thanks,
Troy
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schuhtl
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| 10-23-2008 11:21 AM |
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Chad, Do you have an example on Beta Springs that I can play around with? I tried Sean's example and I don't think it is working anymore? I tried to create my own test form but it is not working either. Maybe it is just me not understanding your last post but Sean and I have both asked if this works with a querystring parameter and I am not sure you have answered the question or not? For example say you pass ?DSParam1=1 from another form. In my scenario, 1 is an event id. I would like to use the sql bind feature to lookup the event details (based on the DSParam1 value) and populate several hidden fields. These hidden fields would contain true or false information like....ShowAddress=True, ShowPhoneNumber=False, ShowPrice=True, etc.... When the page renders to the user I would like to dynamically show only the questions that have a related hidden field that is true. Does that make sense? Let's say I had a Address textbox that is hidden by default and a hidden question hAddress. If hAddress has a value of True then show the Address textbox otherwise keep Address hidden. So back to my initial question...is this possible and if it is, do you have an example on Beta Springs? Thanks, Troy |
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Chad Nash
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| 10-25-2008 03:27 PM |
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Troy,
Hi. Yes from what I understand of what you are wanting the new 2.7.4 release/patch/quick enhancements release should allow for this. We have been planning to release this over the past week and should by the end of the weekend (update downloads and update patches and hot fixes on Snowcovered).
Anyway... I created a quick demo of this on Beta Springs. We are passing it the userID from DSParam1, we are using the SQL binding feature to pull in the user information, and if the Username is set to 'Admin' which is a hidden field on the form, then it will show the Address field. The Address field is initially hidden until forced visible by event.
So for example, passing it the UserID of 1 doesn't show the address field, but passing the UserID of 2 does show the address field.
Question Event w/ Hidden Field and Querystring - Hide Field
Question Event w/ Hidden Field and Querystring - Unhide Field
Is this what you are needing?
-Chad |
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schuhtl
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| 10-26-2008 08:15 AM |
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Chad, Thanks for making the demo...this is exactly what I was looking for! Troy |
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Matthieu Lubac
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| 11-12-2008 02:35 AM |
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Hi everybody,
I actually need it to for one of my project.
One question : Can we download this patch at this time or is it still in development ?
DevPCI Team. |
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schuhtl
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| 11-12-2008 02:51 AM |
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It is available now...details. |
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schuhtl
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| 12-22-2008 01:39 PM |
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All,
I am not sure if this is documented anywhere or not but I thought I would pass this info along to save you some time if you can't get this to work. Your Initial/Postback Question that you select in your Question Event (that displays or hides the question) HAS to be above (question sort order) the Affected Question you select in your Question Event.
Example that works (based on Chad's demo above):
question order...
Email
UserName
Address
Unhide Field - Question Event
Initial/Postback Question: UserName
Initiation Response: Address
Example that does not work:
question order...
Email
Address
UserName
Unhide Field - Question Event
Initial/Postback Question: UserName
Initiation Response: Address
Troy |
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J. Risse
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| 01-28-2009 06:05 AM |
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Hi! That is a very interesting feature.
I tried to use it as a language switch, but it only works if the name of the parameter is DSParam1 or DSParam2. If I tried to refer $(language) in the Initial SQL statement it does not work.
Is it possible to use another name for the parameter DSParam1 or is that a fixed name? |
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Chad Nash
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| 01-28-2009 01:54 PM |
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Hi, there are a few custom parameters such as this when reference from querystring parameters and this is $(DSParam1), $(DSParam2) and $(DSParam3). Its actually $(DSSession1) thru 3 for session variables. This is because these are special tokens that get parsed through some SQL Injection routines for security purposes. -Chad |
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Tim Johnston
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| 03-10-2009 07:52 PM |
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Will question events ever be triggered by the regular "Retrieve values from querystring variable for this question" option? That's the most obvious behavior a regular user would be expecting... TJ |
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J. Risse
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| 03-10-2009 10:43 PM |
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Hi Tim, the events are NOT triggered by this option. This was my first test.
I created a form with a combobox. The combobox got question events to show/hide other fields. I tried the "retrieve from query string" option but nothing happened.
But would be a really nice feature! |
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